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    There has apparently never been a trade in NFL history involving three first round picks for a single first. Add in a second on top of that, and RGIII better be a Hall of Famer for this to be worth it, especially given he gets no first round caliber help until 2015 now, when he'll be entering his FOURTH NFL season.

    If it's Luck, no question, do it. I'm just not sure this was as a great deal for Washington.
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    Quote Originally Posted by l.a. no-teamers View Post
    Barkley was out of the draft waaay before the combine, so I dont understand how the combine is relevant. It's not like his combine performance vaulted him past Barkley, a guy who was already out of the picture and didn't participate in the combine.

    What EP was saying was that Barkley was rated ahead of RG3 by most teams, which was absolutely true if you want to believe official NFL personnel. How they would rate following the combine had Barkley stayed in the draft is purely a guess on your part (Barkley could have been an even better interview etc...), but during the time when they were both actually being compared, Barkley was ahead on most boards. The fact that RG3 is #2 now is by default, not because he passed up Barkley due to the draft process
    I agree, supply and demand. The demand for franchise caliber quarterbacks was high (Colts, Redskins, Browns, others), the supply (two) was low.

    If Barkley's in this draft, the Rams get an auction for the #2, but not nearly this high of a cost, and not until draft day itself likely. The fact that these teams were not going to be in on Manning (at least, for the Redskins, as a longer term solution, only short term) in free agency drove the cost even higher.

    I'd be VERY interested to see what would have happened had the Rams waited until now to see what Miami would offer.
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    I also think RG3 owes Cam Newton a big thank you bouquet. Fair or not, I believe Newton's success is embedded beyond RG3's intrinsic value. If Newton wasn't as good as he was, the Skins would not have to have given up 3 1st round picks IMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Raiden View Post
    There has apparently never been a trade in NFL history involving three first round picks for a single first. Add in a second on top of that, and RGIII better be a Hall of Famer for this to be worth it, especially given he gets no first round caliber help until 2015 now, when he'll be entering his FOURTH NFL season.

    If it's Luck, no question, do it. I'm just not sure this was as a great deal for Washington.
    The Browns didn't think the price was too high, offering #4 and #22 and next year's first. They also added a 2nd rounder at the end to try to persuade the Rams, but they went with the Washington offer instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by r5d3 View Post
    The Browns didn't think the price was too high, offering #4 and #22 and next year's first. They also added a 2nd rounder at the end to try to persuade the Rams, but they went with the Washington offer instead.
    Pointing to the the Browns and Redskins as examples that the asking price wasn't too high is like using Paris Hilton as a character witness at a Lindsey Lohan court case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by |(evin|(olb|(ritik View Post
    Pointing to the the Browns and Redskins as examples that the asking price wasn't too high is like using Paris Hilton as a character witness at a Lindsey Lohan court case.
    I tend to agree here. I can't defend that offer, it was flat out stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by |(evin|(olb|(ritik View Post
    Pointing to the the Browns and Redskins as examples that the asking price wasn't too high is like using Paris Hilton as a character witness at a Lindsey Lohan court case.
    Really? Sure, knock Cleveland's scouting department and their lack of talent evaluation and what not, but I can't recall Cleveland overpaying or making silly (read: stupid) decisions with their roster and money the way Washington has been know to.

    The Browns did a good job getting the Jets' first and second rounder and three players for Sanchez, and an even better job last year of getting 2 firsts, a 2nd, and two fourths for Jones. Cleveland generally makes decent trades, it's just what happens after that's been questionable.

    The asking price for Griffin was just right, period. I knew any team that wanted to trade up was going to part with two additional first round picks. Washington threw in a 2nd before Cleveland had a chance to, and that's all she wrote.

    Debate the merits of Griffin being worth all that all you want, but the price wasn't going to change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by |(evin|(olb|(ritik View Post
    Pointing to the the Browns and Redskins as examples that the asking price wasn't too high is like using Paris Hilton as a character witness at a Lindsey Lohan court case.
    That was pretty funny. Lol!

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    And, one season in, Griffin already led a pretty poor Redskins team to the playoffs. Granted, he also injured himself in said playoffs, which was always going to be the one main concern, but looks like the Redskins are getting the money's worth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sascha View Post
    And, one season in, Griffin already led a pretty poor Redskins team to the playoffs. Granted, he also injured himself in said playoffs, which was always going to be the one main concern, but looks like the Redskins are getting the money's worth.
    I think we're still way too early in the game to decide whether or not the Redskins got their money's worth. The Rams haven't even used all of the picks they got from the Skins, have they? Granted, if you get a franchise quarterback, it doesn't really matter what you gave up. I think in three more years we'll have a much better idea of whether this read option is going to stick in the NFL, whether RGIII can stay healthy, and what exactly the Skins gave up to get him. So far though, looks like a pretty good deal.

    I'm also interested to see if Mallard still feels the same way about trading the #1 pick and keeping Manning. Seems both Manning and Luck were pretty successful, still not sure what I would have wanted as a Colts fan.

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