Pennington says no worries

[Dreamers]

Pennington doesn't see competition at QB in Miami - Sports Rumors - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

Considering White was just drafted by the Yankees and Henne was useless in college I have to agree. This has to be the easiest year for Pennington to win his starting role back. We threw everyone and there mom at him and he always came out on top so this should be a given for him.

[Texecutioner]

Pennington doesn't see competition at QB in Miami - Sports Rumors - NFL - Yahoo! Sports

Considering White was just drafted by the Yankees and Henne was useless in college I have to agree. This has to be the easiest year for Pennington to win his starting role back. We threw everyone and there mom at him and he always came out on top so this should be a given for him.

I think last season Pennington proved that he's no QB to ever be questioned or doubted ever again if he's healthy. I remember the Jets when Pennington first came into the league were all of a sudden a much better team when Pennington got back there, then he went down the next year and they sucked, then he came back and they were a playoff team, then he went down and they sucked, then he came back again and they were a playoff team. It always seemed that Pennington was the big difference there.

He goes to a 1-15 Dolphins team where he doesn't even get to go to training camp and leads them to a division winner and the post season with garbage at WR. Everyone has always talked about his noodle arm for years and tried to harp about what they think "he can't" do, but it's about time people start talking about what "he can" do and the stuff that he does very well. The guy had an MVP type of season with a 1-15 team and crap at WR's. Props to Pennington.

[gamefarm83]

I think last season Pennington proved that he's no QB to ever be questioned or doubted ever again if he's healthy. I remember the Jets when Pennington first came into the league were all of a sudden a much better team when Pennington got back there, then he went down the next year and they sucked, then he came back and they were a playoff team, then he went down and they sucked, then he came back again and they were a playoff team. It always seemed that Pennington was the big difference there.

He goes to a 1-15 Dolphins team where he doesn't even get to go to training camp and leads them to a division winner and the post season with garbage at WR. Everyone has always talked about his noodle arm for years and tried to harp about what they think "he can't" do, but it's about time people start talking about what "he can" do and the stuff that he does very well. The guy had an MVP type of season with a 1-15 team and crap at WR's. Props to Pennington.

I agree all of the WR's are guys who should only play the slot (Camarillo and Bess.. although I love them both, I'd love for Camarillo to be the next Welker and Bess to be our Amani Toomer clutch-type player) and Ginn who could possibly be a #2 guy (although the deep ball only works so well for us). He took the time to build chemistry with each of the WR's. He knew they weren't the greatest athletes so he took them under his wing and played to their strengths. Great guy, smart QB.

[wootah]

Everyone has always talked about his noodle arm for years

I couldn't agree more. Pennington is the all time most accurate QB in the NFL [link] and has proven to lift his teams to a higher level. I don't get the infatuation most people have with arm strenght. It seems to me you'd rather get mentioned in a list with Peyton Manning and Kurt Warner than one with Kyle Boller and Jamarcus Russell.

[Hawkeye]

Considering White was just drafted by the Yankees and Henne was useless in college I have to agree. This has to be the easiest year for Pennington to win his starting role back. We threw everyone and there mom at him and he always came out on top so this should be a given for him.

Where did you come up with that? Henne threw for over 9700 yards and 87 TDs vs 37 ints with a 60% clip. He was 34-14 as a starter, so I don’t know what your opinion is based on.

[jjflr]

I agree with Pennington. He fits well in their system right now and when he's healthy, he's one of the better QB's in this league, so he has no worries.

[Dreamers]

Where did you come up with that? Henne threw for over 9700 yards and 87 TDs vs 37 ints with a 60% clip. He was 34-14 as a starter, so I don’t know what your opinion is based on.

I loved that team in Hennes tenure and watched every game they played that is where I get it from. Any college QB worth his salt could have won a tilte with that group and he failed to do so. You give me Braylon Edwards, Jason Avant, Steve Breaston, Mario Manningham, and Mike Hart in college and I'll break school records too. Carl Tabb would have been great as well if he wheren't always buried in talent. And they wheren't just a offencive team either just look at the D players that came out of Michigan as well. Alan Branch, Leon Hall, Prescott Burgess, Shawn Crable, David Harris, and LaMarr Woodley where all outstanding. A team like that comes along maybe twice in a lifetime and they blew it. If you look back at some of the games they lost most of them can be taged by mistakes Henne made.

[Hawkeye]

I loved that team in Hennes tenure and watched every game they played that is where I get it from. Any college QB worth his salt could have won a tilte with that group and he failed to do so. You give me Braylon Edwards, Jason Avant, Steve Breaston, Mario Manningham, and Mike Hart in college and I'll break school records too. Carl Tabb would have been great as well if he wheren't always buried in talent. And they wheren't just a offencive team either just look at the D players that came out of Michigan as well. Alan Branch, Leon Hall, Prescott Burgess, Shawn Crable, David Harris, and LaMarr Woodley where all outstanding. A team like that comes along maybe twice in a lifetime and they blew it. If you look back at some of the games they lost most of them can be taged by mistakes Henne made.

Ok, with all respect, that is a pantload. I like how you bring up how good their defenses were and want to lay all or most of those losses at Henne's feet.

You say you watched every game, but I find that hard to believe since you're blaming Henne for not bringing home a NC title. Let's take a look at this losses:

2007
387 yards and 34 points given up to App. St.
624 yards and 38 points to Oregon
477 yards and 37 points to Wisconsin (he missed most of that game to injury)
14 points and 279 yards to Ohio St (yes Henne played poorly, but so did Boeckman and Ohio State still managed 229 yards rushing......so where was the Michigan defense?)

2006
503 yards and 42 points to Ohio St (316 passing, 187 rushing)
439 yards and 32 points to USC (391 yards passing and 4 TDs allowed; Henne was 26 of 41 for 309 yards and 2 TDs vs 1 int.)

2005
They played fairly well against ND, but I don't see how that loss was his fault
The defense played well in the loss to Wisconsin, but Henne was 16 of 34 for 258 yards and 2 TDs vs 1 int
403 yards and 23 points allowed to Minnesota (264 of those rushing)
418 yards and 25 points allowed to Ohio St (300 of those passing)
318 yards and 32 points allowed to Nebraska (Henne was 21 of 43 for 270 yards and 3 TDs vs 1 int)

2004
The defense only allowed 28 points and 313 yards to ND (Henne was 25 of 40 for 240 yards and 1 TDs vs 1 int; yep, let's blame it on the freshman QB)
446 yards and 37 points allowed to Ohio St (Henne was 27 of 54 for 328 yards and 2 TDs vs 2 ints)
444 yards and 38 points to Texas (Henne was 18 of 34 for 227 yards and 4 TDs)

Let's talk about Alan Branch and Gabe Watson while we're at it. Both of them were knocked for being lazy and taking plays off, so I think they are due a certain amount of criticism for the way the defense played. You continue to talk up that defense, but the numbers don't support them playing up to their talent level. As far as offense goes, Breaston and Arrington didn't exactly live up to the hype either. You can say Henne was the reason Michigan didn't win a title while he was there, but the facts don't support that opinion.

[Dreamers]

He put up #s I can't argue with that and the USC Rosebowl game I will admit was just as much bad coaching as it was his lack of skills. Henne alway put up good #s but if you watch the film he liked to hold the ball forever and sometimes killed his WRs up the middle. He always seemed to turn 4 second plays into a 13 second bump run. He had an accurate arm but his leadership and lack of instinct just put that team behind an eight ball to many times. If you play that way vs teams like Ohio and USC they will beat you in field position every time. They just always choked at the end of the season. Then his SR season was just pathetic. That loss to APP was pathetic. Yes it wasn't just him but he looked like a statue in that game. The Oregon game was any better IMO but Mallett? didn't do any better. Then they choked at the end of the season again but still some how beat Florida. I nearly threw mt TV out the window in that game. That D never had the best backfield and yes there where rumors that some guys would take plays off but in big game those guys where there. Branch even had an INT in that one Ohio game. And I'd look at that ND game again. He was 19 for 44 and except for that one long play he was barely moving the ball. And he fumbled that in the endzone. I will not even talk about that game with my father he is a ND fan and I talked up that game for like 2 weeks. I'm not sure how they blew that Ohio game in 05 but I'm sure that Nebraska game game was lost on his fumblits? as well.

[Hawkeye]

I don't know how you can question his leadership. He was a good leader. I also don't know how you can say the defensive guys were there in big games when the defense got shredded in the big games during Henne's years there.