H.S. QB throws behind the back pass for 2 point conversion

[Whit Prowdy]

Rivals High - QB throws a behind-the-back two-point pass (http://highschool.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1008614)

Video of the pass along with the link. Cool play, or cocky jerk?

[StevenSD]

cool play, the motion of his arm threw the defense off, no one but his guy was there when the ball dropped

[OSU8085]

I vote cocky, it looked like they knew that team was so bad they could get away with it so they did it.

Its not a crime to be cocky though

[Weston M]

Obviously cocky, I don't care if that score only made it 13-0...they obviously knew this wasn't a good team considering the fact that they beat them 58-0. I don't like it to be honest. It's one thing to run up a score, but that's terrible.

weston

[StevenSD]

Obviously cocky, I don't care if that score only made it 13-0...they obviously knew this wasn't a good team considering the fact that they beat them 58-0. I don't like it to be honest. It's one thing to run up a score, but that's terrible.

weston

how's it terrible? do you even know if that was a designed play or not? that was a wicked throw no matter how you want to describe it.

[Weston M]

how's it terrible? do you even know if that was a designed play or not? that was a wicked throw no matter how you want to describe it.

I don't know if it was a designed play or not. What I do know is that either the QB himself or the coach made that call themselves, it was a cocky move and no one spoke out about it. There was no misdirection in that play. It was a simple base set and no huge deceptiveness in the formation. Based on the fact that these guys won 58-0, it's not like they took down an opponent worthy of mention in their region. You don't risk a behind the back throw against a worthy opponent, you do stuff like that to show off. Plain and simple.

weston

[Sascha]

I don't know if it was a designed play or not. What I do know is that either the QB himself or the coach made that call themselves, it was a cocky move and no one spoke out about it. There was no misdirection in that play. It was a simple base set and no huge deceptiveness in the formation. Based on the fact that these guys won 58-0, it's not like they took down an opponent worthy of mention in their region. You don't risk a behind the back throw against a worthy opponent, you do stuff like that to show off. Plain and simple.

weston


Kind of like you don't run a Statue of Liberty play against Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl.

Oh, wait.

If this is a play they just added to the playbook, why not give it a try, no matter what the game, who the opponent, or what the situation is? Maybe they wanted to see if the play works as well in a game as it looked on the practice field. Maybe they're a playoff bound team looking to use the play again in a few weeks. I don't think it was cocky to call the play, especially at that point of the game. Maybe, if the game was already 58:0, you can consider it rubbing it in.

[Weston M]

Kind of like you don't run a Statue of Liberty play against Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl.

Oh, wait.

If this is a play they just added to the playbook, why not give it a try, no matter what the game, who the opponent, or what the situation is? Maybe they wanted to see if the play works as well in a game as it looked on the practice field. Maybe they're a playoff bound team looking to use the play again in a few weeks. I don't think it was cocky to call the play, especially at that point of the game. Maybe, if the game was already 58:0, you can consider it rubbing it in.

Rudi, please man. You gotta be kidding. The Statue of Liberty doesn't bother me because it's a play of misdirection. A deliberate attempt to shift the defense's attention to one side of the field so you can sneak a handoff to the other side. There was zero misdirection on this play. This was a diliberate attempt to show off. It wasn't a play that you would use in competitive play because it's not a trick play and it's not a strategic play. It's an attempt to throw one behind your back and "see if it works." It's obvious they were playing a team that was well below their competition level and I'm sure the players knew they were going to blow this team out coming into the game. Why not throw in a behind-the-back pass to further the embarassment?

weston

[Wolverine]

Sketchy.. They didn't do it when the game wasn't out of hand, but they obviously knew what they were up against.

If they did it for trickery in a crucial point in the game, it's obvious.. But I'd say at this point, they were just A)Showing off or B)Attempting to see if they could pull it off because they knew it wouldn't them.

Either way, their intentions are sketchy

[william00777]

Sketchy.. They didn't do it when the game wasn't out of hand, but they obviously knew what they were up against.

If they did it for trickery in a crucial point in the game, it's obvious.. But I'd say at this point, they were just A)Showing off or B)Attempting to see if they could pull it off because they knew it wouldn't them.

Either way, their intentions are sketchy

I agree with this assesment. I want to lean towards the latter. I think the QB was playing around and showed the coaches and at some point they decided to put it in, and they ran it when they thought it might work and knew it wouldnt' matter.

Not a big deal but I don't know if it's the best way to teach young men respect, sportsmanship, ect...

[Sascha]

Rudi, please man. You gotta be kidding. The Statue of Liberty doesn't bother me because it's a play of misdirection. A deliberate attempt to shift the defense's attention to one side of the field so you can sneak a handoff to the other side. There was zero misdirection on this play. This was a diliberate attempt to show off. It wasn't a play that you would use in competitive play because it's not a trick play and it's not a strategic play. It's an attempt to throw one behind your back and "see if it works." It's obvious they were playing a team that was well below their competition level and I'm sure the players knew they were going to blow this team out coming into the game. Why not throw in a behind-the-back pass to further the embarassment?

weston


This mis-direction comes from the throw itself though. Who expects the QB to step back in the pocket, and then all of a sudden see the ball coming from the low left side of a right-handed QB. IT's not mis-direction in the usual maner, but it's certainly mis-direction.


For the record, I don't think it's a play that would work a lot or catch on, but I can see why they gave it a shot.