#4 pick

[Ball_Hawks]

So who does Seattle take with the #4 pick. I only see 4 players Seattle would possibly take.



Michael Crabtree
Eugene Monroe
Aaron Curry
Matthew Stafford

[Dreamers]

Brian Orakpo. I do not see Smith or Monroe being there. Crabtree would be a waste of a pick. WRs are not fast track helpers and that is their strongest position anyway. It is just too high of a pick for Curry but he is rated high. Stafford is a big maybe but I see QBs falling in this draft. None of them are really all that good. I would have to say their board should look like this.

1 Monroe or Smith
2 Orakpo
3 Curry
4 Stafford

[Ball_Hawks]

Brian Orakpo. I do not see Smith or Monroe being there. Crabtree would be a waste of a pick. WRs are not fast track helpers and that is their strongest position anyway. It is just too high of a pick for Curry but he is rated high. Stafford is a big maybe but I see QBs falling in this draft. None of them are really all that good. I would have to say their board should look like this.

1 Monroe or Smith
2 Orakpo
3 Curry
4 Stafford
The only 2 position that could come in and start on day 1 and make a impact is OLB & SS. Any other position would sit back and learn. DT is also Seattles strongest position.

Crabtree is still brought up in every Seattle discussion with the experts from Seattle. Cause he isnt injury prone, great character & great work ethic. Also bring in that Branch is injury prone & Burleson is coming off a ACL injury.

Andre Smith has no chance in hell to come to Seattle. Isnt the best character player & isn't the hardest worker.Seattles GM also has said he doesnt like taking offensive lineman in the 1st round.

Orakpo im not sure about him. Is he a DE or OLB in the 4-3? can he cover? I dont see Seattle taking a DE. Seattle is looking to replace Peterson and thats more of what Curry can do. They have Jackson from the 1st round last year & Tapp a 2nd rounder the year befor.

[Dreamers]

The only 2 position that could come in and start on day 1 and make a impact is OLB & SS. Any other position would sit back and learn. DT is also Seattles strongest position.

Crabtree is still brought up in every Seattle discussion with the experts from Seattle. Cause he isnt injury prone, great character & great work ethic. Also bring in that Branch is injury prone & Burleson is coming off a ACL injury.

Andre Smith has no chance in hell to come to Seattle. Isnt the best character player & isn't the hardest worker.Seattles GM also has said he doesnt like taking offensive lineman in the 1st round.

Orakpo im not sure about him. Is he a DE or OLB in the 4-3? can he cover? I dont see Seattle taking a DE. Seattle is looking to replace Peterson and thats more of what Curry can do. They have Jackson from the 1st round last year & Tapp a 2nd rounder the year befor.

Seattle has done every move to avoid the Crabtree connection and hasn't even talked to him. There is no reason to even think that is still an option for Seattle. They currently have two big WR contracts and 8 on hand. Seattle would just be wasting their pick with a WR. The same people that have Crabtree going to Seattle are the same ones that Raji still in contention and I just do not see either. I also meant the other Smith, Jason.

DE can also play on day 1 if they are good enough and that was the main reason I like Orakpo here. He has played a few different positions and unlike the DEs you have he can step right in and play the weak side. And as a OLB prospect I like him more then Curry who is vastly over rated on this site. If that is all your after then Marcus Freeman will make a good 2nd rounder do not waist the pick. Orakpo gives you a great option all around for a 4-3 player IMO. I do feel it is going to be between Curry and Orakpo for them and Orakpo is the better player. He is the best DL here and that is big on draft day.

[Hawkeye]

And as a OLB prospect I like him more then Curry who is vastly over rated on this site. If that is all your after then Marcus Freeman will make a good 2nd rounder do not waist the pick. Orakpo gives you a great option all around for a 4-3 player IMO. I do feel it is going to be between Curry and Orakpo for them and Orakpo is the better player. He is the best DL here and that is big on draft day.

You like a player at OLB who has not played the position over one that has? How is Curry vastly overrated and not a better player than Orakpo? I also find it funny that it wasn’t that long ago you considered Brown a better player than Orakpo and now Orakpo is the best DL here.

[Dreamers]

You like a player at OLB who has not played the position over one that has? How is Curry vastly overrated and not a better player than Orakpo? I also find it funny that it wasn’t that long ago you considered Brown a better player than Orakpo and now Orakpo is the best DL here.
I never considered Brown the the better player I said quite the opposite really. I've always liked Orakpo more but Brown is higher on a lot of boards. Brown is a better prospect for a team looking to go 3-4 prospect. Orakpo is the better prospect for a 4-3. I still say Brown is not the top DE in this draft but fit KC better the Orakpo. As Orakpo fits Seattle better then Brown. Fact is if KC does pass on Brown he likely falls out of the top ten I can't say the same thing about Orakpo he fits more teams in the top 10. Curry hasn't done anything great enough to be a to 5 OLB pick. Yes he is the best OLB in this class but it is a weak OLB class. I'd say 6 maybe 7 of the top ten OLB in this draft did not play OLB in college. This is a strong DE draft and you are likely to see a lot of them go as OLBs because of it. I'd take Nic Harris, Connor Barwin, Brian Orakpo, Larry English, Lawrence Sidbury Jr., Paul Kruger, James Laurinaitis, and Clay Matthews Jr. as a OLB here before Zach Follett or Clint Sintim. Based on his competition he looks outstanding but how much is that worth? No one has given me one good reason why he should be a top 5 pick. Does making you the top of a bad OLB class get you that far? It is like Keith Rivers last year and ever one saying he was a top 5 pick. Why??? Miami, SL, the Jets, KC, NO, Jax, and NE all looked at him and passed.

[GatorsRock]

I'd go with Monroe if he is still available. Let him learn from Walter Jones so that when he leaves you have another great tackle to build your franchise around.

[jjflr]

yep, i heard something about the seahawks wanting to take a hard look at stafford or sanchez. i think seattle is a great fit for a kid right now. They would get a chance to work behind a great QB for a couple of years until he retires and learn the nfl game until he gets put in there. i would love to see Seattle take one of the qb's, if they feel they're good and have a future. i think it's a perfect fit.

[Chris Raiden]

Take your pick of the tackles, they're as close to a sure thing as you can get with this draft, and they'll ultimately be a longer term building block as well.

-RD

[l.a. no-teamers]

I've read quite a bit of mocks that said if Stafford doesn't go to the Lions, he would go to Seattle. But Mora is a WCO guy, isn't he? Stafford isn't that kind of QB, he played out of the gun for the most part in college, and is a much better downfield passer than quick short routes. Frankly, he's already a medicore quick throw guy, let alone having to take a 3 step drop along with it.

[Parrish]

I've read quite a bit of mocks that said if Stafford doesn't go to the Lions, he would go to Seattle. But Mora is a WCO guy, isn't he? Stafford isn't that kind of QB, he played out of the gun for the most part in college, and is a much better downfield passer than quick short routes. Frankly, he's already a medicore quick throw guy, let alone having to take a 3 step drop along with it.I've read that Stafford ran a pro style offense.

[l.a. no-teamers]

I've read that Stafford ran a pro style offense.

No he didn't, at least not traditional pro style. I mean, I know the pros are playing more and more out of the gun in recent years, but pro style still means a tradition system where the base position for the QB is under center. Stafford isn't like Tebow, exclusive out of the gun, but I want to say Georgia runs about 80% of their pass plays out of the gun, regardless of downs. Here is a vid of Stafford's final game. That's not traditonal pro style. Now if you watch it closely, you can see he is much more hesitant under center as opposed to the gun. It's night and day. and not going to mesh with a WCO at all.

YouTube - QB Matt Stafford ALL PASS ATTEMPTS UGA vs GT 2008 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3l0OIqYkwz0)


THIS is pro-style, 3 step, 5 step, 7 step, gun ... Sanchez would fit the WCO system much better, although #4 is obviously quite a reach to get him.

YouTube - QB Mark Sanchez ALL PASS ATTEMPTS USC vs PSU 2008 / 2009 Rose Bowl (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNwVfPNhYtI)

[Parrish]

Matthew Stafford | Georgia Scouting Report - 2009 NFL Draft Prospect (http://www.draftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/qb/Matthew-Stafford.php)

I think that's where I read it. I have not been watching college as much as I used to in the past two years, so I've had to rely on scouting reports.

[l.a. no-teamers]

Matthew Stafford | Georgia Scouting Report - 2009 NFL Draft Prospect (http://www.draftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/qb/Matthew-Stafford.php)

I think that's where I read it. I have not been watching college as much as I used to in the past two years, so I've had to rely on scouting reports.

Yeah, but the game video speaks for itself. Are you going to believe that guy? or are you going to believe the game video that showed him in the gun 34 times vs only 8 times under center. That's 81% of pass plays, he's in the gun. Only 19% he's under center. That's not a typical NFL ratio

[Parrish]

I'm just explaining why I thought that, not saying you are wrong. I wish I could see more tape of him, one game does not always show what the offense is about. Maybe that was a gameplan that game? I don't know. Like I said I have not watched college football much lately and am not really interested in a quarterback so I have not been paying attention to them as much.

[l.a. no-teamers]

I'm just explaining why I thought that, not saying you are wrong. I wish I could see more tape of him, one game does not always show what the offense is about. Maybe that was a gameplan that game? I don't know. Like I said I have not watched college football much lately and am not really interested in a quarterback so I have not been paying attention to them as much.

I know, i'm just saying that site is wrong, and that I dont believe Stafford is a good fit for a WCO.