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Crunked
02-21-2007, 06:43 AM
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Combine..to join together
Opening salvo's:
Readers please choose from the following options: I A) Feel the Combine is crucial in player evaluation and want my team to use this tool as a prime deciding factor when building their draft board. B) I like to see who is the fastest, jump the highest et al, but ultimately I want my team to use the combine as a guide to decide which direction to go, but not use it as the be all end all. C) The combine is a joke, give me the slowest least agile, guys you got and my team will still make champions of them, cause its just a circus and there is too much pressure on the players to perform up to their capabilities.

They said it....
"Improve your 40 yard dash time, Increase your Vertical Jump, turn some heads with a fast 5-10-5 pro agility! With the PCT combine preparation program you can get the results that you are looking for. Turn scout's heads with your testing numbers, and improve your draft stock!" -An un-named training firm who makes their living helping atheletes inflate their numbers


Breaking fabrication:
Thousands of NFL elite decend upon Indy for the NFL combine only to learn the league has turned the event into just another marketing tool for their latest product. A line of farm combine machinery for the midwest, yes its a tractor show!

Ban-able words/phrases:
"Cybex"
"Wonderlic"
"Body mass"
"Body fat index"
"quickness"
"agility"
"...his (fill in the blank) should project well in the NFL..."

Heart of the Matter:
The combine, the dog show of the NFL. What track and field hopes to be when it grows up, a great big pressure packed media frenzy drawing in celebrities that don't really know or care what it takes to perform, they are under the mistaken guise that they are here to measure something.
http://www.procombinetraining.com/h/m2/mediaContent/COMBINEMANUALBINDEDGIF.GIF
Atheletes now hire personal trainers to help exaggerate the precise skills the combine is designed to measure. Mental agility testing qualifies and quantifies a players "so called" football intelligence. Coaches get to meet the atheletes in what amounts to the highest level of recruiting, like me buddy please like me cause we are going to draft you and work you like a farm horse, pulling the plow of our losing franchise and filling the seats to get a glimpse of you while you are still healthy. X-rays, cat scans, ultra sound, blood test, body fat measuring...poke-prod-poke-poke-poke....Then there is the off shoot anamoly, players refusing to take part in certain drills, because they don't feel for whatever reason they can perform up to preconcieved levels, therefore lowering their value. Players holding their own Pro days outside of the combine, some even after appearing in the combine, in the NFL's version of a do over...the whole process has become a joke, and the joke is on you.

Teams go in wanting to look at the obscure guys they didnt get much film on, most of the time their top picks are set, they know who those guys will be give or take a shuffle of picks or two, what they want to know is the kid from Howard really as fast as he looked on film, can that O-lineman actually bench a grand piano, etc etc etc...its a freakshow for cash, wasn't it P.T. Barnum who uttered, "There is a sucker born every minute".....well step right this way see the three headed bearded lady, she's live and ready to talk to you...

The Combine is a waste, track and field gone wrong, truly the pinnacle of frivolity for the NFL.

Side Bar
Ted Ginn will not participate in the Combine he is still nursing a sprained foot....must really be sprained.

Crunked Says:
"Ironically called the Combine, which means to join together, the NFL pro day works to seperate and differentiate one player from another"

"Wonderlic-What the little boy did to get his tongue stuck to the frozen flag pole in the first place"

The best-the worst-the ugliest of the week

Best
The Fact that the off season finally gets started this week, we reach the end of the Franchise tag period, step closer to the opening of the free agent market. Most teams will be settled in with new coaches and coordinators by the end of the week and the business of football can begin.

Worst
Has to be the soon to be long line of atheletes that will bow out of the NFL combine for some of the hokiest reasons depriving the fans of the only means we have to measure a draft picks worth outside of seeing them play, usually on TV.
Ugliest
http://img462.imageshack.us/img462/5825/toebulletiz0.gif
Specialized training to artificially enhance performance at the combine is what is ugly in the NFL this week. Here is a testimonial from one such outlet.


Quote:
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=6 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=alt2 style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px inset; BORDER-TOP: 1px inset; BORDER-LEFT: 1px inset; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px inset">LSU running back Joseph Addai made a statement yesterday on the new Field Turf in the RCA Dome. Many questioned how fast the surface would be, that was no obstacle for Joseph Addai. After all he had something to prove. His first 40 was a cautious 4.41 sec. 40 yard dash. He executed a great start and accelerated through the finish. But there was more…

On his second 40 he threw down, blistering a 4.37 40 yard which was later recognized as the fastest running back time at the combine. The six weeks he trained with me was worth it. He also had a first place scores for running backs with a vertical jump of 38.5 inches and a huge broad jump of 10’5”.

How did he do it?

After the testing I had a chance to meet up with him talk. He said that the all the techniques I taught him made the difference. He said he was so confident that if he worked the technique and combined with his athletic ability, he would perform the best.

You see with the technique instruction in my 'Pro Combine Preparation Manual'
you can have a eye popping performance like Joseph had. Plain and simple.

It will give you the tips that Joseph used to set himself apart at the NFL Combine.


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TexecutedInTampa
02-21-2007, 08:13 PM
http://www.pigskinheaven.com/gallery/files/7/Turf-Toe.gif
Combine..to join together
Opening salvo's:
Readers please choose from the following options: I A) Feel the Combine is crucial in player evaluation and want my team to use this tool as a prime deciding factor when building their draft board. B) I like to see who is the fastest, jump the highest et al, but ultimately I want my team to use the combine as a guide to decide which direction to go, but not use it as the be all end all. C) The combine is a joke, give me the slowest least agile, guys you got and my team will still make champions of them, cause its just a circus and there is too much pressure on the players to perform up to their capabilities.

They said it....
"Improve your 40 yard dash time, Increase your Vertical Jump, turn some heads with a fast 5-10-5 pro agility! With the PCT combine preparation program you can get the results that you are looking for. Turn scout's heads with your testing numbers, and improve your draft stock!" -An un-named training firm who makes their living helping atheletes inflate their numbers


Breaking fabrication:
Thousands of NFL elite decend upon Indy for the NFL combine only to learn the league has turned the event into just another marketing tool for their latest product. A line of farm combine machinery for the midwest, yes its a tractor show!

Ban-able words/phrases:
"Cybex"
"Wonderlic"
"Body mass"
"Body fat index"
"quickness"
"agility"
"...his (fill in the blank) should project well in the NFL..."

Heart of the Matter:
The combine, the dog show of the NFL. What track and field hopes to be when it grows up, a great big pressure packed media frenzy drawing in celebrities that don't really know or care what it takes to perform, they are under the mistaken guise that they are here to measure something.
http://www.procombinetraining.com/h/m2/mediaContent/COMBINEMANUALBINDEDGIF.GIF
Atheletes now hire personal trainers to help exaggerate the precise skills the combine is designed to measure. Mental agility testing qualifies and quantifies a players "so called" football intelligence. Coaches get to meet the atheletes in what amounts to the highest level of recruiting, like me buddy please like me cause we are going to draft you and work you like a farm horse, pulling the plow of our losing franchise and filling the seats to get a glimpse of you while you are still healthy. X-rays, cat scans, ultra sound, blood test, body fat measuring...poke-prod-poke-poke-poke....Then there is the off shoot anamoly, players refusing to take part in certain drills, because they don't feel for whatever reason they can perform up to preconcieved levels, therefore lowering their value. Players holding their own Pro days outside of the combine, some even after appearing in the combine, in the NFL's version of a do over...the whole process has become a joke, and the joke is on you.

Teams go in wanting to look at the obscure guys they didnt get much film on, most of the time their top picks are set, they know who those guys will be give or take a shuffle of picks or two, what they want to know is the kid from Howard really as fast as he looked on film, can that O-lineman actually bench a grand piano, etc etc etc...its a freakshow for cash, wasn't it P.T. Barnum who uttered, "There is a sucker born every minute".....well step right this way see the three headed bearded lady, she's live and ready to talk to you...

The Combine is a waste, track and field gone wrong, truly the pinnacle of frivolity for the NFL.

Side Bar
Ted Ginn will not participate in the Combine he is still nursing a sprained foot....must really be sprained.

Crunked Says:
"Ironically called the Combine, which means to join together, the NFL pro day works to seperate and differentiate one player from another"

"Wonderlic-What the little boy did to get his tongue stuck to the frozen flag pole in the first place"

The best-the worst-the ugliest of the week

Best
The Fact that the off season finally gets started this week, we reach the end of the Franchise tag period, step closer to the opening of the free agent market. Most teams will be settled in with new coaches and coordinators by the end of the week and the business of football can begin.

Worst
Has to be the soon to be long line of atheletes that will bow out of the NFL combine for some of the hokiest reasons depriving the fans of the only means we have to measure a draft picks worth outside of seeing them play, usually on TV.
Ugliest
http://img462.imageshack.us/img462/5825/toebulletiz0.gif
Specialized training to artificially enhance performance at the combine is what is ugly in the NFL this week. Here is a testimonial from one such outlet.


Quote:
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=6 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=alt2 style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px inset; BORDER-TOP: 1px inset; BORDER-LEFT: 1px inset; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px inset">LSU running back Joseph Addai made a statement yesterday on the new Field Turf in the RCA Dome. Many questioned how fast the surface would be, that was no obstacle for Joseph Addai. After all he had something to prove. His first 40 was a cautious 4.41 sec. 40 yard dash. He executed a great start and accelerated through the finish. But there was more…

On his second 40 he threw down, blistering a 4.37 40 yard which was later recognized as the fastest running back time at the combine. The six weeks he trained with me was worth it. He also had a first place scores for running backs with a vertical jump of 38.5 inches and a huge broad jump of 10’5”.

How did he do it?

After the testing I had a chance to meet up with him talk. He said that the all the techniques I taught him made the difference. He said he was so confident that if he worked the technique and combined with his athletic ability, he would perform the best.

You see with the technique instruction in my 'Pro Combine Preparation Manual'
you can have a eye popping performance like Joseph had. Plain and simple.

It will give you the tips that Joseph used to set himself apart at the NFL Combine.
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B, without a doubt. You want to see what they do, but if you base your draft on it, good luck to you.

Crunked
02-21-2007, 08:56 PM
I too am for the most part a B man, I can allow a little C to seep in as well, but not full on C. I think it is just as vital to pick the right athelete just as much as the fastest.....

YoHoChecko
02-21-2007, 10:06 PM
you're missing key points when you say that the combine is a joke. The most important is that by bringing so many draftable players together, the teams get to do all the medical testing they need which they can't do on campus visits and are limited in the amount of draft prospect visits that can come to their facilities, so the combine is the only place they get to have detailed medical exams by their own doctors and evaluate the risks of some of these players and see who are damaged goods.

As for the options, I'm a B, and I think most teams are, too. You watch the games and watch film and you draw conclusions about players. The combine can serve to help reinforce those. It's most useful in the agility stuff moreso than a 40-yard dash. And I completely agree that the whole point is damaged greatly by offering specialized training, but when players played at different levels of competition, it is good to get them next to each other, and compare some speed and agility side by side.

It's not to find out how fast a guy is, it's to see if he's as fast as he looked against this conference or that team... was he out-running guys because he's fast or because they're slow?

Many teams do rely too heavily on what they find, but there are things that can be gained from it, and the mass comparison is a big one.

Crunked
02-22-2007, 08:19 AM
I understand that it is a conformation hub, I concede that in my article, I agree the combine is an important tool for all the obvious reasons. What I am railing against, is those in the fan base, and those in the media, and by association those in the coaching ranks that feel a mans, 40 time, vertical leap, etc etc is the measure of a "good" player.. I mean think about it, we have all heard "oh, I want so and so he was the fastest guy at the combine," or "that dude has a killer vertical he will be a ball hawk in the league" kind of crap, come on you know its out there I hear it in every forum I go to, "what was his 40 time?"

I am saying with the training to inflate natural ability, the fact that certain players will bow out, and the simple fact that a speed # determines a guys atheletic worthiness WILL happen and its a joke.....

Crunked
02-23-2007, 05:26 PM
form an article today on ESPN.com




The measurables have become so important that a cottage industry has grown up around them: Players are packed off by their agents to special camps to work on improving their times in combine drills and reps in the bench press. Arizona apparently has been full of draft prospects who have spent the winter with strength and agility coaches. This is like taking a course to improve your SAT score while not doing a thing to actually prepare yourself to succeed in college.