vBookie Information!

[GatorsRock]

Welcome to the PSH vBookie center. Everyone starts out with 500 cash to bet. IT'S NOT THE SAME AS MVP'S. If you want to make your own event, then click New Thread and at the very bottom it should say Make this into a vBookie event. Then you just fill out the information.

We might be making a converter to convert the cash to MVP's in the near future. (by we I mean Raiden)

If you have any questions feel free to let us know.

[bigbucsfan80]

Where does it say you have 500 cash?

[GatorsRock]

It will be added to where the Rep/Posts/etc is. Raiden's still working on other things.

[bigbucsfan80]

It will be added to where the Rep/Posts/etc is. Raiden's still working on other things.

Oh ok, sounds good to me!

[Soel v25]

Welcome to the PSH vBookie center. Everyone starts out with 500 cash to bet. IT'S NOT THE SAME AS MVP'S. If you want to make your own event, then click New Thread and at the very bottom it should say Make this into a vBookie event. Then you just fill out the information.

We might be making a converter to convert the cash to MVP's in the near future. (by we I mean Raiden)

If you have any questions feel free to let us know.
1 question; if points aren't the same as mvp's,why does it say points where my mvp's use to be?

[GatorsRock]

We haven't changed the name of it yet. Points is the same as MVP's.

[ThomasTomasz]

While I won't use it, this is a very nice feature, especially for Pick'em spreads (or whatever they are)

[Titans2032]

This is an awesome new feature Gators. I just have one question. What do we use our points for besides betting? Maybe you guys have already said that somewhere and I might have missed it, but I am still wondering about that.

[GatorsRock]

This is an awesome new feature Gators. I just have one question. What do we use our points for besides betting? Maybe you guys have already said that somewhere and I might have missed it, but I am still wondering about that.

Right now there's nothing you can use them for other than betting. I believe Raiden will work on a converter though to where you can trade your MVP's in for more Points or your Points into MVP's. If we just did it for MVP's, then it would be much easier to get Premium Membership and the other stuff without actually doing the posting, graphics, article writing that we would like our PM's to do.

[Shoey]

This is everybody's most anticipated new feature it seems. Can't wait to see this one in action myself

[GatorsRock]

btw, Raiden has added your vCash into the postbit. You can see how much money you have for betting.

[LatinG187]

I really like this vBookie feature.I got a quick question for you guys.Can ANYONE make a vBookie event?

[Schaddy]

We might be making a converter to convert the cash to MVP's in the near future. (by we I mean Raiden)




:lol2: that's how a lot gets done around here, isn't it? ;)

[GatorsRock]

Nevermind. Only staff can make events.

[gamefarm83]

Seems like a fun feature. Can't wait to use it :)

[LatinG187]

Nevermind. Only staff can make events.

Is that going to be permanet?If so can members request an event?

[gamefarm83]

Nevermind. Only staff can make events.
Make Miami vs New England for me :) Pleaaaseeee

[Playing Net 101]

Great feature, but 1 complaint. The odds in the games are way way off. The favorite is 1/1, and then you have to find out how much the other team is favored by (EX: Eagles are favored by 3 vs the Cowobys, the Eagles should pay 1/1 and the Cowboys should pay 3/1.) But, however you guys are going to do it is fine with me.

I would like to see some NBA games posted too if you get teh chance.

[Azazel]

how do i suggest a betting event...

tonight's lakers/sixers game???

[GatorsRock]

Post it in the Event Request thread.

[Oak]

Whoever came up with this idea should be PSH member of the decade! Way cool!

We can call you "Member of the Decades." :D

[Eric2407]

I have got a few questions regarding the vBookie. Is the vCash really money or an online points sytem used to buy Premium Memberships, usertitles, etc? I need to know this and probably should've asked before betting all mine. I just got so caught up in the new feature I just didn't realize I could lose some money on it. I just thought it was so cool and a great idea. Also, say I put five hundred vCash on one game. Do I double up like I went all in for a hand of poker? Or do I get my five hundred and a portion of that back if I win. Sorry for all the questions but with me being gone for awhile I'm a little overwhelmed and lost (my basketball season just started).

[Guy On Couch]

1) This is an online points system kinda like the MVPs but you can't use them on anything just yet. Like they said at the beginning of the thread Raiden will most likely make a points converter later on so you can turn your vCash into MVPs.

2) Yes, if you bet 500 on somebody with 2-1 odds then you would get 1000 points. If you bet 500 on somebody with 3-1 odds you would get 1500, 4-1 you would get 2000, etc etc.

[Guy On Couch]

Whoever came up with this idea should be PSH member of the decade! Way cool!

We can call you "Member of the Decades." :D

haha your welcome.
Actually it was me AND curt according to Raiden.

[broncos7]

Hey I think that along with the Vcash to MVPs you should have an MVPs to Vcash in case you run out.

[CatClaw]

From what i've read you can cash vpoints and MVPs for each other.....just not yet.:D

[l.a. no-teamers]

haha your welcome.
Actually it was me AND curt according to Raiden.

Acutally, Frozzy and I came up with somethng like this about 8 months ago where Frozzy was running it. We didn't have all this fancy programming back then tho, so that never really took off and we shut it down.

[Shoey]

hey, how do you pay out after an event?

[RockyTop]

2) Yes, if you bet 500 on somebody with 2-1 odds then you would get 1000 points. If you bet 500 on somebody with 3-1 odds you would get 1500, 4-1 you would get 2000, etc etc.

That is my question right there. I see some odds are 1:1. What is the point of betting on that team if you are not going to win something back on top of your bet. For instance, 1:1 would be fine if you bet 100, won a 100 for the odds portion, and received back your inital bet of 100 for a net gain of 200. But with what you explained above, you are not getting your initial bet back. We are only receiving the odds won off that bet. So why would we bet on 1:1 odds? For instance, your example of betting 500 on somebody with 2:1 odds should pay back 1,500. 1000 for the odds winnings, and 500 for the initial bet back.

I know I'm getting too technical. I know this ain't Vegas. Sorry. :p

[Guy On Couch]

I believe the way I said it was right but maybe not. I believe 2:1 odds means for every 1 point you bet you get 2 dollars back. Maybe I'm just misunderstanding that or maybe it's just wrong all together. I don't know though, maybe somebody should ask this in the ask an admin forum.

[Soel v25]

That is my question right there. I see some odds are 1:1. What is the point of betting on that team if you are not going to win something back on top of your bet. For instance, 1:1 would be fine if you bet 100, won a 100 for the odds portion, and received back your inital bet of 100 for a net gain of 200. But with what you explained above, you are not getting your initial bet back. We are only receiving the odds won off that bet. So why would we bet on 1:1 odds? For instance, your example of betting 500 on somebody with 2:1 odds should pay back 1,500. 1000 for the odds winnings, and 500 for the initial bet back.

I know I'm getting too technical. I know this ain't Vegas. Sorry. :p

You'd get your bet back plus the amount won. so if you bet 50 at 2/1 you win 100 plus your original 50 =150

[Oak]

Hey I think that along with the Vcash to MVPs you should have an MVPs to Vcash in case you run out.

Great idea, I second broncos motion.

[allstardude12]

Great idea, I second broncos motion.

Raiden's working on it. Give him some time.

[Oak]

That is my question right there. I see some odds are 1:1. What is the point of betting on that team if you are not going to win something back on top of your bet. For instance, 1:1 would be fine if you bet 100, won a 100 for the odds portion, and received back your inital bet of 100 for a net gain of 200. But with what you explained above, you are not getting your initial bet back. We are only receiving the odds won off that bet. So why would we bet on 1:1 odds? For instance, your example of betting 500 on somebody with 2:1 odds should pay back 1,500. 1000 for the odds winnings, and 500 for the initial bet back.

I know I'm getting too technical. I know this ain't Vegas. Sorry. :p

No No No, Heisman's explanation is right. If you bet on a team to win that has 3:1 odds and you bet $100.00 then you are putting down $100.00 with the chance to win $300.00 (you can only lose $100.00). You are right however, 1:1 odds would not be something you bet on because the ratio is 1:1 which means if you bet $100.00 you can only win $100.00. If you are talking about the bets that are against the spread (like the Texans/Colts game) then whatever you decide to bet you would win in addition to getting your bet back. I looked at all the bets and don't remember seeing any with 1:1 odds.

[Oak]

You'd get your bet back plus the amount won. so if you bet 50 at 2/1 you win 100 plus your original 50 =150

Are you sure you're right? If you put $50.00 down paying 2:1 odds then I believe you just win $100.00. You don't get your $50.00 bet back in addition making the total winnings $150.00. That would be 3:1 odds.

[Soel v25]

No No No, Heisman's explanation is right. If you bet on a team to win that has 3:1 odds and you bet $100.00 then you are putting down $100.00 with the chance to win $300.00 (you can only lose $100.00). You are right however, 1:1 odds would not be something you bet on because the ratio is 1:1 which means if you bet $100.00 you can only win $100.00. If you are talking about the bets that are against the spread (like the Texans/Colts game) then whatever you decide to bet you would win in addition to getting your bet back. I looked at all the bets and don't remember seeing any with 1:1 odds.


no, I think big red is right. If you win,you get what you bet + the winnings!

[Soel v25]

Are you sure you're right? If you put $50.00 down paying 2:1 odds then I believe you just win $100.00. You don't get your $50.00 bet back in addition making the total winnings $150.00. That would be 3:1 odds.


Yep, otherwise the 1:1 bets would be worthless, when you win you always get your bet + the winning odds

[allstardude12]

Okay guys. I got a great idea. Instead of having you guys try to figure it out............how about you ask an admin? Then, you will know and you guys won't have to try to figure it out. ;)

[Guy On Couch]

Lol...somebody should ask jeeves!
www.askjeeves.com

[Soel v25]

Okay guys. I got a great idea. Instead of having you guys try to figure it out............how about you ask an admin? Then, you will know and you guys won't have to try to figure it out. ;)

nothing to figure out, I've already won a couple and I got my bet back + the winnings

[allstardude12]

nothing to figure out, I've already won a couple and I got my bet back + the winnings

Then why didn't you say that earlier? :nono: It would've saved this whole squabble. ;) :rolleyes:

[Oak]

Yep, otherwise the 1:1 bets would be worthless, when you win you always get your bet + the winning odds

That is what I'm saying, there aren't any 1:1 odds. I don't believe a bet against the spread is considered 1:1 odds, especially if you lost in real betting you would have to pay the 10% juice.

[Soel v25]

Then why didn't you say that earlier? :nono: It would've saved this whole squabble. ;) :rolleyes:


lol,now where's the fun in that?:rolleyes: :p :D

[allstardude12]

lol,now where's the fun in that?:rolleyes: :p :D

I don't know. Where's the fun in getting in a squabble with somebody? :rolleyes: ;) :) :D :p

My new favorite word = squabble.

[Oak]

Yep, otherwise the 1:1 bets would be worthless, when you win you always get your bet + the winning odds

We are actually both right, a $50.00 bet on 2:1 odds pays winnings of $100.00 like I said, but you do not lose the $50.00 you put down in the first place so yes, you do get your $50.00 original bet back, but it's not winnings.

[Soel v25]

We are actually both right, a $50.00 bet on 2:1 odds pays winnings of $100.00 like I said, but you do not lose the $50.00 you put down in the first place so yes, you do get your $50.00 original bet back, but it's not winnings.


thats what I've been saying. Now I have to shut up, allstardude told me to stop squabbling.:cool:

[allstardude12]

thats what I've been saying. Now I have to shut up, allstardude told me to stop squabbling.:cool:

I never told you to stop. I suggested the thought of asking an admin instead of listening to you squabble and I said what's the fun in squabbling.

God, get your facts straight next time. :D

[RockyTop]

I looked at all the bets and don't remember seeing any with 1:1 odds.

Did you look at Arizona @ Detroit? Detroit has 1:1 odds. Or at least they did, maybe it has changed....or maybe not.

Sorry to cause all this ruckus. That wasn't my intentions. But it does seem pointless to bet with 1:1 odds. You would not gain anything by winning the bet.

1 simple solution to resolve this is no more 1:1 odds. :D

[RockyTop]

That is what I'm saying, there aren't any 1:1 odds.

OK. I just checked the thread again. Detroit is a 1:1 odd against Arizona tomorrow. Betting on Detroit is only worth it if you get your original bet back, PLUS your odds winnings.

[CatClaw]

OK. I just checked the thread again. Detroit is a 1:1 odd against Arizona tomorrow. Betting on Detroit is only worth it if you get your original bet back, PLUS your odds winnings.your right...I just won my first bet...2/1 pays double your bet +original, so 1:1 you will get 200 back for 1:1(original 100 plus your winnings(100)). Hope this helps.

[hdawg3]

your right...I just won my first bet...2/1 pays double your bet +original, so 1:1 you will get 200 back for 1:1(original 100 plus your winnings(100)). Hope this helps.

I believe that you are correct CatClaw.

I just got my winnings back on a bet that had 2:1 odds.

I bet 190 and won 570.

190+190+190=570. Yep that is correct. As Will Smith would say "CHINNNNG CHINNNNG !!!! " :D

[GatorsRock]

Eric is the big winner so far, he bet all 500 and won with ND on 2/1 odds, which means he has 1500 vcash right now.

[hdawg3]

Eric is the big winner so far, he bet all 500 and won with ND on 2/1 odds, which means he has 1500 vcash right now.

WOW, tough decision on taking ND. What they were favored by 23 1/2. ;)

[Soel v25]

Eric is the big winner so far, he bet all 500 and won with ND on 2/1 odds, which means he has 1500 vcash right now.


You've probably been asked already,but have you thought about adding point spreads?

[broncos7]

I got a question, so say the odds are 2:1. You bet 500. You win. Do you get 1000 or 1500? So do you get your original money AND double the original money, or just your 2x your original money??

[hdawg3]

You've probably been asked already,but have you thought about adding point spreads?

Yeah b/c if you wouldve had the spread on the ND game then Eric would have a big ZERO points right now.

ND 42
Navy21 +23 1/2

[Soel v25]

I got a question, so say the odds are 2:1. You bet 500. You win. Do you get 1000 or 1500? So do you get your original money AND double the original money, or just your 2x your original money??


1500, your origianl bet plus the double winnings

[GatorsRock]

You've probably been asked already,but have you thought about adding point spreads?

Yeah, we'll do that next weekend. We're all new at this, so we thought we would just get our feet wet without spreads.

[hdawg3]

I got a question, so say the odds are 2:1. You bet 500. You win. Do you get 1000 or 1500? So do you get your original money AND double the original money, or just your 2x your original money??

You bet 500 on 2:1 odds and you win 1500.

I will let you do the math. ;)

[Soel v25]

Yeah, we'll do that next weekend. We're all new at this, so we thought we would just get our feet wet without spreads.


Understood, and job well done, it's been fun.

[CatClaw]

Yeah, we'll do that next weekend. We're all new at this, so we thought we would just get our feet wet without spreads.
Except the Colts game of Course.....can't just be givin' money away!!!

[RockyTop]

Yeah, we'll do that next weekend. We're all new at this, so we thought we would just get our feet wet without spreads.

Yeah. And since we have talked yall into using spreads, maybe next week we can talk yall into parlaying bets.

LMAO. J/K bro. :lol2:

[Sascha]

That is what I'm saying, there aren't any 1:1 odds. I don't believe a bet against the spread is considered 1:1 odds, especially if you lost in real betting you would have to pay the 10% juice.


Ewww, I only drink 100% juice! :D

[Eric2407]

Yeah b/c if you wouldve had the spread on the ND game then Eric would have a big ZERO points right now.

ND 42
Navy21 +23 1/2
Well if I'm not mistaken wasn't it you that requested the game and didn't you have the same opportunity to bet all five hundred on the same game? So don't be ragging on me for getting a lot of points for winning that one bet. And just for your information, if there would've been a point spread I wouldn't have bet on it. Twenty three? That's just way to high to go with. I would've saved my five hundred for the next day and bet on my Vikings. If there was a point spread on that I still would've won being that the Vikings were were the underdog. Either way I would still be the leader of all members in the vCash department. Instead of having five thousand I just have six thousand five hundred which isn't that huge of a difference.

[hdawg3]

Well if I'm not mistaken wasn't it you that requested the game and didn't you have the same opportunity to bet all five hundred on the same game? So don't be ragging on me for getting a lot of points for winning that one bet. And just for your information, if there would've been a point spread I wouldn't have bet on it. Twenty three? That's just way to high to go with. I would've saved my five hundred for the next day and bet on my Vikings. If there was a point spread on that I still would've won being that the Vikings were were the underdog. Either way I would still be the leader of all members in the vCash department. Instead of having five thousand I just have six thousand five hundred which isn't that huge of a difference.

Im not ragging on you, i was just stating a fact. Good job for winning some easy points. I was thinking that we were playing the spread when i requested it. So back off with the attitude.

PS. No i didnt have the same opportunity to put as much on the game as you did b/c when i requested it i only had 190 in the bank. ;)

[Chris Raiden]

For the record, we will be starting to put spreads on games...

-RD

[Soel v25]

For the record, we will be starting to put spreads on games...

-RD


Btw RD, Only 4,000 on your Buckeyes? I figured a man with all of your vcash would chance it all.:rolleyes: ;) :D

Oh yeah, I almost forgot-GO BLUE!!!!!!!

[Chris Raiden]

Btw RD, Only 4,000 on your Buckeyes? I figured a man with all of your vcash would chance it all.:rolleyes: ;) :D

Oh yeah, I almost forgot-GO BLUE!!!!!!!

Depending on how much the line swings, I may go more later in the week :D

-RD

[abellamy]

this is like the best thing ever. I have always loved playing the Yahoo pickem leagues, but I have always been too much of a tight wad to go to Vegas and bet real money. Now i get the best of both worlds. could my life get any better?